[He shakes his head. Masaomi is the type of person to lie to himself, but he can't hide the truth from himself. That's what makes him such a self-destructive person.]

He knows what he's doing. I say he's like a dog [and a hand goes up here - he knows, he knows, he's just explaining himself] because he gets into things he knows he shouldn't.

You keep things from him, and he'll still try and sniff it out. When you get on him for it, he might feel bad, sure. But only because he upset you. You warn him, and he'll see what he can get away with anyways.

So it's not leading him on. [She's too careful for that.] If you have to shut him down, it's not even a bad reflection on yourself. He does these things to himself.